People who complain something like Polish Immigrants?
Is that fair, since us Brits have invaded most of the Spanish islands, puking up all over their pavement and getting drunk every other night. Do you think they feel equal as you do about Polish immigrants who are here legally and contribute deeply to our economy
Answers:
Used Car Salesman : WHAT DEBT DO WE OWE the poles. we went to war to aid them.READ some history books. Some free poles fought for us but only after we gave them a home.
As far as brits abroad are concerned we Are financialy buoyant when we move to other countries (for the most part). we contribute from the achieve go mainly in property and starting unmarked businesses. However i feel you are confusing Tourisim with Immigration and that is juat daft as they are NOT equal
The Spanish made a pact next to the devil when they decided to attract working class holiday makers. There would be jobs for their relations, hotel owners and land speculators would make a lot of money.
But they also have to put up with drunken loutish behaviour from a section of the tourists.
I made no pact beside anybody, but the house next door to mine has been rented to Polish ancestors for a couple of years now. They may be hard working but every weekend they are out in the garden, drinking, shouting, and making a common nuisance of themselves.
They may be contributing to the economy but they aren't contributing to peace and quiet where on earth I live.
It's partly how they form their own little enclaves and use the English language, instead of integrating and becoming Spanish.
You said Poles not Spaniards.
We have never invaded Poland "puking up all over their pavements and getting drunk every other hours of darkness."
Plus the Brits who go to Spain usually go there to retire, self-sufficently near plenty of money. The young Brits who go there getting drunk and puking up are holidaymakers who will come subsidise home and not claim child benefit or tax credits.
Poles come here with no money, to compete for job next to natives, drive wages down and claim lots of child benefit for their kids back home. Totally different scenario.
Your argument doesn't stand up. Plus if you have a problerm with Brits "getting drunk" I don`t know you should check out the gangs of racist Polish youths, drunk on Vodka and being abusive to passers by (especially the non-white ones) who congregate outside my local LIDLS . . .
And a study by the House of Lords proved that network contribution of economic migrants to the UK is so small as to be entirely negligable. How does the import of skilled labour stifling training opps for young-looking Brits "benefit" anyone? How does the undercutting of native tradesmen "benefit" them? How does the driving down of wages and increased competition for work "benefit" the young Briton? It doesn't. The only population who benefit are business owners and people who get to employ a cheaper plumber.
EDIT: To the historically-challenged. Poland in actual fact owe *us* a debt for going to war to help them. A few fought for us but the majority of the debt is theirs. Plus just because a few Poles fought contained by the Battle of Britain doesn't mean that we should allow carte blanche to the whole of Poland to come here and relieve themselves to jobs and housing which should be going to young Brits (and don't come out with the aged crap about "young Brits" being too indolent to work, I can introduce to dozens who prove the exact opposite. Stop reading the Guardian.)
Funny. During WWII Polish pilots made up around 7% of fighter command, they shot down around 13% of the German planes destroyed in the Battle of Britain. The Poles took Monte Casino, after others have failed. Their reward? to be sold down the river by Churchill and Rosevelt and not even be allowed to take part within the victory parade in London. Now we turn these rock-hard working people away after 50 years of communist rule brought on by us! The Polish people that are here are mostly friendly helpful and rock-hard working,,in World war two,,the Polish spitfire fighter pilots be very courageous keeping our lands free from German aircraft,,so don't knock the Poles,,afterall they came here and filled job that the lazy dole sucking scroungers didn't want to do. This country needs some new blood and we definately requirement a change of government too,,
To complain about Poles living and working here in UK is a pointless exercise within race crap in my opinion.
I am aged enough to just remember WW2, having be born in 1941.
I know that without the Polish Squadrons Royal Air Force, it is doubtful that we would have won the Battle of Britain. Yes, it be that bloody close.
POLISH SQUADRONS RAF BATTLE OF BRITAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di0pkn4Rg...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmO8Ku85R...
On their first day in the Battle of Britain, the Polish pilots killed (shot down) 16 Nazi planes. No other squadron ever achieve such a stunning victory.
So, as far as I am concerned, what the Polish Squadrons did back then within the Battle of Britain, gives to the people of Poland of today an everlasting passport to fame and glory and their right of entry to UK.
I am entirely biased because I am Welsh and hold had the great good furtune to work alongside my Polish comrades here in London - they come across not to understand the words "lunch" and "break", especially when they are joined together. Their idea of a day's work is in the order of ten to 12 hours with maybe ten minutes for a coffee sometime around 4pm.
Blimey! You wait till the Union hear about this. . . . .
British tourists don't claim benefits for their kids back home- Poles do.
I would point out that we lost an Empire as a result of helping Poland - and the Polish feckers are not at all gratefull.
In my experience here in the UK its the Poles who are always getting drunk and spewing up over the pavements! I completely agree beside you. However in the small town i live in we have a huge number of immigrant and i'ts definately taking its toll on the community. I do find it rather annoying that i have lived here for all my life span and struggle to get dentist and doctors appointments yet the poles i work with appear to have no problem on getting on waiting lists etc despite being here for what seem like 5 minutes.
the drunk Brits who progress on holiday there come back home polish people are great
the polish people tried taking my uncles brief in the factory
they don't contribute to our economy they send most of their income home to their families in Poland which takes greatly of money out of our economy
they cant speak English properly
they shouldn't be here
I don't think it's a case of people complaining nearly immigrants in general. I am completely supportive of immigrant coming into our country and filling positions where there are gap. I think the problem is down to the sheer number of immigrants who have enter the country and the effect such a large population explosion in such a short time have had, and the strain this has put on housing, transport, education, form services, undermining of local tradesmen, etc.
Your point is well made though. I wonder how many people realise the debt we owe the Poles for their support during the Second World War?
For mowhokman. Learn your history;
But the most distinguished role they played surrounded by 1940 when the decisive for the fate of the England and the coalition Battle of Britain took place (August 8 – October 31, 1940). The British industry produced enough aircraft but it be not possible to train enough pilots in such a little. Therefore the role of foreign airmen, of whom the greatest group formed the 151 Polish pilots, cannot be overemphasized. They fought both in the British and Polish squadrons (302 and 303 fighter and 300 and 301 bomber squadrons). During the Battle of Britain the Poles shot down 203 Luftwaffe aircraft which stood for 12% of total German losses in this struggle.
The Brits you are talking roughly are on holiday, the Brits that live there can afford it and don't scrounge off the rest of the country, unlike the Polish people. You are conversation rubbish - your stereo types disgust me.
So people attracted to a resort as the facilities they offer and style entertainment permitted, whilst spending adjectives their hard earned cash how can that be compared to mass immigration?
Get existing.
i don't mind the polish or any other immigrant who are here,
its the ones who come here for the money, housing and the nhs and then they don't want to work.
the working ones are fine by me.
It's partly how they form their own little enclaves and use the Polish language, instead of integrating and becoming British. I'm sure the Spanish complain about us brits, so we can complain in the region of the polish.
i think you are right. i have to speak that we have a few polish families here and they are lovely friendly people. they a short time ago fit in with every thing resembling they have been here for ever. i have no problem near polish immigrants at all. they seem merely to want to improve their lives. they are not hate fuelled Islamic morons with nought but mindless violence and negative simmering hate and resentment to propose. they actually seem to just want to work ,liberate ,and go home. as far as I'm concerned those that want to stay are more than welcome. UCS is right about the Polish Pilots. There be a squadron based in RAF Northolt, where here is the "Polish War Memorial" to the pilots who died. Its just off the A40.
Even the English pilots admired the polish guys. They hated the nazi's beside a passion for what they did to Poland. They had a real fire within their belly.
Also, the Polish were the guys who got hold of an original
"Enigma" coding domestic device, so the Bletchley guys could make duplicates to work out how to break the codes.
Nothing wrong with Polish immigrant, I've worked with loads and they're O.K. It's the bl00dy Kurds we should get rid of (I've worked with them as all right by the way.) We had the first NHS dentist in our town for ages because of a Polish dentist coming here.
Where I live, after 10pm most of the people getting drunk and throwing up are East Europeans - many of them Polish ! - and they aren't here on a holiday nor do they have any intentions of going put a bet on. I dont mind the poles they are good workers its the others that piss me off who come here and want everything free.
Although I dont agree with the poles claiming child benefit and sending it home to their kids contained by Poland!
You breed a very good point...but don't let that fool us.
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Used Car Salesman : WHAT DEBT DO WE OWE the poles. we went to war to aid them.READ some history books. Some free poles fought for us but only after we gave them a home.
As far as brits abroad are concerned we Are financialy buoyant when we move to other countries (for the most part). we contribute from the achieve go mainly in property and starting unmarked businesses. However i feel you are confusing Tourisim with Immigration and that is juat daft as they are NOT equal
The Spanish made a pact next to the devil when they decided to attract working class holiday makers. There would be jobs for their relations, hotel owners and land speculators would make a lot of money.
But they also have to put up with drunken loutish behaviour from a section of the tourists.
I made no pact beside anybody, but the house next door to mine has been rented to Polish ancestors for a couple of years now. They may be hard working but every weekend they are out in the garden, drinking, shouting, and making a common nuisance of themselves.
They may be contributing to the economy but they aren't contributing to peace and quiet where on earth I live.
It's partly how they form their own little enclaves and use the English language, instead of integrating and becoming Spanish.
You said Poles not Spaniards.
We have never invaded Poland "puking up all over their pavements and getting drunk every other hours of darkness."
Plus the Brits who go to Spain usually go there to retire, self-sufficently near plenty of money. The young Brits who go there getting drunk and puking up are holidaymakers who will come subsidise home and not claim child benefit or tax credits.
Poles come here with no money, to compete for job next to natives, drive wages down and claim lots of child benefit for their kids back home. Totally different scenario.
Your argument doesn't stand up. Plus if you have a problerm with Brits "getting drunk" I don`t know you should check out the gangs of racist Polish youths, drunk on Vodka and being abusive to passers by (especially the non-white ones) who congregate outside my local LIDLS . . .
And a study by the House of Lords proved that network contribution of economic migrants to the UK is so small as to be entirely negligable. How does the import of skilled labour stifling training opps for young-looking Brits "benefit" anyone? How does the undercutting of native tradesmen "benefit" them? How does the driving down of wages and increased competition for work "benefit" the young Briton? It doesn't. The only population who benefit are business owners and people who get to employ a cheaper plumber.
EDIT: To the historically-challenged. Poland in actual fact owe *us* a debt for going to war to help them. A few fought for us but the majority of the debt is theirs. Plus just because a few Poles fought contained by the Battle of Britain doesn't mean that we should allow carte blanche to the whole of Poland to come here and relieve themselves to jobs and housing which should be going to young Brits (and don't come out with the aged crap about "young Brits" being too indolent to work, I can introduce to dozens who prove the exact opposite. Stop reading the Guardian.)
Funny. During WWII Polish pilots made up around 7% of fighter command, they shot down around 13% of the German planes destroyed in the Battle of Britain. The Poles took Monte Casino, after others have failed. Their reward? to be sold down the river by Churchill and Rosevelt and not even be allowed to take part within the victory parade in London. Now we turn these rock-hard working people away after 50 years of communist rule brought on by us! The Polish people that are here are mostly friendly helpful and rock-hard working,,in World war two,,the Polish spitfire fighter pilots be very courageous keeping our lands free from German aircraft,,so don't knock the Poles,,afterall they came here and filled job that the lazy dole sucking scroungers didn't want to do. This country needs some new blood and we definately requirement a change of government too,,
To complain about Poles living and working here in UK is a pointless exercise within race crap in my opinion.
I am aged enough to just remember WW2, having be born in 1941.
I know that without the Polish Squadrons Royal Air Force, it is doubtful that we would have won the Battle of Britain. Yes, it be that bloody close.
POLISH SQUADRONS RAF BATTLE OF BRITAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di0pkn4Rg...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmO8Ku85R...
On their first day in the Battle of Britain, the Polish pilots killed (shot down) 16 Nazi planes. No other squadron ever achieve such a stunning victory.
So, as far as I am concerned, what the Polish Squadrons did back then within the Battle of Britain, gives to the people of Poland of today an everlasting passport to fame and glory and their right of entry to UK.
I am entirely biased because I am Welsh and hold had the great good furtune to work alongside my Polish comrades here in London - they come across not to understand the words "lunch" and "break", especially when they are joined together. Their idea of a day's work is in the order of ten to 12 hours with maybe ten minutes for a coffee sometime around 4pm.
Blimey! You wait till the Union hear about this. . . . .
British tourists don't claim benefits for their kids back home- Poles do.
I would point out that we lost an Empire as a result of helping Poland - and the Polish feckers are not at all gratefull.
In my experience here in the UK its the Poles who are always getting drunk and spewing up over the pavements! I completely agree beside you. However in the small town i live in we have a huge number of immigrant and i'ts definately taking its toll on the community. I do find it rather annoying that i have lived here for all my life span and struggle to get dentist and doctors appointments yet the poles i work with appear to have no problem on getting on waiting lists etc despite being here for what seem like 5 minutes.
the drunk Brits who progress on holiday there come back home polish people are great
the polish people tried taking my uncles brief in the factory
they don't contribute to our economy they send most of their income home to their families in Poland which takes greatly of money out of our economy
they cant speak English properly
they shouldn't be here
I don't think it's a case of people complaining nearly immigrants in general. I am completely supportive of immigrant coming into our country and filling positions where there are gap. I think the problem is down to the sheer number of immigrants who have enter the country and the effect such a large population explosion in such a short time have had, and the strain this has put on housing, transport, education, form services, undermining of local tradesmen, etc.
Your point is well made though. I wonder how many people realise the debt we owe the Poles for their support during the Second World War?
For mowhokman. Learn your history;
But the most distinguished role they played surrounded by 1940 when the decisive for the fate of the England and the coalition Battle of Britain took place (August 8 – October 31, 1940). The British industry produced enough aircraft but it be not possible to train enough pilots in such a little. Therefore the role of foreign airmen, of whom the greatest group formed the 151 Polish pilots, cannot be overemphasized. They fought both in the British and Polish squadrons (302 and 303 fighter and 300 and 301 bomber squadrons). During the Battle of Britain the Poles shot down 203 Luftwaffe aircraft which stood for 12% of total German losses in this struggle.
The Brits you are talking roughly are on holiday, the Brits that live there can afford it and don't scrounge off the rest of the country, unlike the Polish people. You are conversation rubbish - your stereo types disgust me.
So people attracted to a resort as the facilities they offer and style entertainment permitted, whilst spending adjectives their hard earned cash how can that be compared to mass immigration?
Get existing.
i don't mind the polish or any other immigrant who are here,
its the ones who come here for the money, housing and the nhs and then they don't want to work.
the working ones are fine by me.
It's partly how they form their own little enclaves and use the Polish language, instead of integrating and becoming British. I'm sure the Spanish complain about us brits, so we can complain in the region of the polish.
i think you are right. i have to speak that we have a few polish families here and they are lovely friendly people. they a short time ago fit in with every thing resembling they have been here for ever. i have no problem near polish immigrants at all. they seem merely to want to improve their lives. they are not hate fuelled Islamic morons with nought but mindless violence and negative simmering hate and resentment to propose. they actually seem to just want to work ,liberate ,and go home. as far as I'm concerned those that want to stay are more than welcome. UCS is right about the Polish Pilots. There be a squadron based in RAF Northolt, where here is the "Polish War Memorial" to the pilots who died. Its just off the A40.
Even the English pilots admired the polish guys. They hated the nazi's beside a passion for what they did to Poland. They had a real fire within their belly.
Also, the Polish were the guys who got hold of an original
"Enigma" coding domestic device, so the Bletchley guys could make duplicates to work out how to break the codes.
Nothing wrong with Polish immigrant, I've worked with loads and they're O.K. It's the bl00dy Kurds we should get rid of (I've worked with them as all right by the way.) We had the first NHS dentist in our town for ages because of a Polish dentist coming here.
Where I live, after 10pm most of the people getting drunk and throwing up are East Europeans - many of them Polish ! - and they aren't here on a holiday nor do they have any intentions of going put a bet on. I dont mind the poles they are good workers its the others that piss me off who come here and want everything free.
Although I dont agree with the poles claiming child benefit and sending it home to their kids contained by Poland!
You breed a very good point...but don't let that fool us.
Resolved Questions:
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Can a green card holder gain medicaide?
No. You are not entitled to any government benefits. Everything depends on how long you've worked in the United States. If you have be here, working and paying into the system for 10 years, yes, you can. If not, your sponsor is responsible. No you are not entitled to any Government Benefits......