Why can't immigration proponents make out that the English weren't "immigrants" when they come to America?

The definition of immigrant in this particular sense reads as: "A party who leaves one country to settle permanently in another."
There was no country until that time the English settlers. Just bands of Indians with little or no cohesion to one another.
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i approaching your way of thinking, i agree on the most part, the world is a better place with decree and order and a justice system, that is what make a country as well, with civilized people, when the even-handedness system was put into place by english settlers a country was developed yes, but what native american tribe can beckon it there own country when they didnt unite ? however with the equality system put in place with this day and age the decree is and will be broken for as long as our governments keep declaring amnesty to crooked immigrants, i have nothing against immigrant to be honest because at the end of the day they are human, but our countries need to crack down severely on our infrastructure man constantly hammered, i aint saying close the gates to everyone, but as developed countries we enjoy a responsibility to make sure the rest of the world have a chance of making money, near this credit crunch happening illegal aliens aint making life any easier on due payers, so we need to get our system running again in lay down to be able to fund developing countries.
I dream up the native Americans would disagree with your claim that there be no country before the English settlers although that might be a little difficult considering that we slaughtered most of them. There were numerous tribes which be part of the greater whole of their tribal nations and they also sent Representatives to annual meeting of the league of 5 nations which encompassed well over 2/3 of the current US, to set policy and plans for the coming year.
Although, you may be correct, the English be more invaders and occupiers than immigrants.
youre wrong, in attendance was a country called mexico recognized by USA as independent nation, anyway usa provoked a period of war and stole the land.
There were people living on the land already, who didn't invite the settlers. How scientifically advanced they were is irrelevant. Basically what you seem to be saying is since the Native Americans be savages with infrastructure that was inferior to what the Europeans had, and since they be several tribes instead of one united people, it is OK to take their ground. You seem to have a bit of a white superiority complex there.
Bet the Native peoples don't dream up so!
it the only small minded thing that they could come up next to to justify millions coming here to sponge off of our tax dollars.They know they don't hold any real answers and trust me those that want them here is only self serving you can bet on it.If you told one of them Ok you take consideration of them and you pay their total expenses they would take them to the border and kick them out similar to a stray dog,and spin off with rock flying into the illegals faces.They are hypocrites within the worst way...At least we that oppose illegals are upfront next to how we feel those that use them for their own needs are the liars not us and trust me I could name a few on here also.....
Just another line from the pro-illegal crowd - approaching they do jobs American don't want and they help the economy. They never shy away from revising history if it suits their purpose.
You're right. The first European settlers were colonists and imperialists.

Which is much friendlier.

What function does this distinction perform?
Your question suggest that you do not believe this country be settle by immigrants. Well, using your strict definitions, maybe, the first track of English people to come were not immigrants. They be settlers. O.K. However, over our history there have been masses ways of immigrants. The Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Africans (most forced but some not), and many more. Each one adds to our culture. So do not be a racist. Do not want to shut family out.
Let me add that I am for some rules and regulation about immigration. I do not think Mexico should lately empty out into the U.S. However, the feel of your question lead me to believe that you would just shut the boards and say no one foreign is allowed.
Your thoughts are interesting, and I will agree, our forefathers conquered this land, there was no formal elected representatives in this land.

And for the record, I'm not against immigrations, I want everyone to want to be an American, and come here and flourish, but I will not own my labor stolen to give you things like welfare and health precision.

Come try to confiscate my labor if you dare.

Alan, what did the native Americans call their country? While I don't agree with adjectives of the treatments of them, their simply was not a uniform gov't in this land. Just roaming nomad.


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